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Amagine
01-18-2005, 04:52 PM
Ok any body have an Idea bout where ta look for a vw 1.8t prefferablely an 01 with the 5-speed tiptronic.

c_mack9
01-18-2005, 04:54 PM
hmmmm, i didnt think they would be that hard to find. jettas are nice, i dated a girl that had a vr6 the level of "niceness" really impressed me. get one.

Amagine
01-18-2005, 04:58 PM
thought bout the vr6 but actually the 1.8t gets better gas guzzlin milage, has a lowere peak torque rating, higher hp, comes with a 5-speed auto, and did I mention cheaper. Also more parts I can cram in that engine bay than the slighty over stuffed vr6

boosted01
01-18-2005, 05:13 PM
thought bout the vr6 but actually the 1.8t gets better gas guzzlin milage, has a lowere peak torque rating, higher hp, comes with a 5-speed auto, and did I mention cheaper. Also more parts I can cram in that engine bay than the slighty over stuffed vr6


the vr6 has more hp and more torque actually, unless you're talking about the newest GLI which has 180 vs the like 176 of the vr6. why do you want the tiptronic, it sucks unless you put a giac chip in it and even then the shifting of them is at best shoddy, the vw slushboxes are slow. i drove one and then drove my wolfsburg edition and its a world of difference. you dont cram parts into the engine bay of a 1.8t.... theres nothing to cram in there, you already have a turbo, the intercooler and all the piping. the vr6 is a potent platform to turbocharge or supercharge, easily reaching 330 hp, granted it costs some money but its worth it in my eyes. The 1.8t can be pushed to about 300 hp without any trouble but reliability of the bottom end comes into question anywhere above that, 455 hp has been put down on a stock 1.8t bottom end however they rebuilt that engine every 20k miles. another option is to build the bottom end on the 2.0, its the same block as the 1.8 its just been stroked, a 16 valve turbo 2.0 on a built bottom end can make 360 hp all day long on some nice internals and a turbo setup. how much money are you looking to spend is the biggest question.

Amagine
01-18-2005, 05:22 PM
well considerin the 1.8t is a realitivily new car (slighty expensive considering my price range right now) prolly not much more than bodykit, chip and the usauls. As far as a major build up thats not likely..unless I get a wild hair. I'm just lookin right now. Can't afford one right now but in bout 4-6 months I should be in better money to get one. and as far as the slushbox goes.. I don't much mind those.. I know trickes around those a mile long.. the chip being the moderate of them

Amagine
01-18-2005, 05:25 PM
and as far as part cramin I was meaning to the shear fact of the amout of room the vr6 takes is insane. if I got a vr6 and you could magician a turbo in there.. have at it.

c_mack9
01-18-2005, 05:25 PM
i didnt mean get the vr6, im sure they are expensive and they are TO nice i think to customize. it seems like an older persons car. i wouldnt mind havin one as a family car. if you wanna customize somethin just get the cheapest one they make cause they all look the same on the outside.

Amagine
01-18-2005, 05:27 PM
true that. but I just want one that won't be had at the stop light...easily. if I got 2.0 for a steal and still had money left yea I would turbo it... but that would be bout last on my list

c_mack9
01-18-2005, 05:30 PM
well good luck finding one then. i like em they look real good i think. those darn nazis make some good cars ill give em that, its the aniliation of the jews thing that chaps my hide. i guess id still drive one though

Amagine
01-18-2005, 05:32 PM
yea
but you hafta thing that was one guy that with good words rallied a nation to do that. Somthing called Social Warfare now....Wonder if a certain man from texas will get that honor in 50 years or so.

jonyb
01-18-2005, 09:23 PM
I didn't read one single post in this thread because I knew that no one would tell you this: My wife bought a 2000 Jetta GLX VR6 brand new from a dealer in Clarksville. Check engine light comes on at 5,000 miles and at 36,000 the problem still wasnt fixed. Had to take it to three other dealers. Finally someone replaces the Mass Air Flow sensor. The funny thing is that this was a common problem, but the other dealers didn't think of that. Think about the pain in the ... that was because the closest dealer is 1.5 hours away. Then the window on the passenger side just fell out one day. What a piece of ....!!! Her sister had a navy blue golf that used to sit a Texas Roadhouse. That thing had worse problems then the Jetta. And the windows fell out of it several times. Steve Kinser's wife had a new beetle and I think he said it was in the shop 16 or 17 times while they had it.

Sorry VW lovers. I throw rocks at VW's when they pass my house...

boosted01
01-18-2005, 10:02 PM
body kits for the mk IV jettas are expensive, a 4 piece kit can run close to two grand and none of them look as good as stock pieces with euro lips or simple lip kits, plus the front bumper fits any front mount perfectly. The chip alone will cost you $400 and at least 5 business days of downtime for shipping and chipping at a company. The usuals for a 1.8t, and im assuming you mean intake, and an exhaust are expensive too. The neuspeed cold air intake has been proven to actually lose 5 hp in certain combinations of parts, you're better off using the neuspeed hardpipe kit that flows 70% better than stock into the turbo cold side and the stock airbox. The fmic is the standard of around $1000 with piping, polyurethane joints and clamps. Intake manifolds are about $450 and gain about 8hp, Turbo upgrades the most popular being the GT28rs that include the turbo, a manifold, an external wastegate, a downpipe, injectors, the chip, a 4 bar fuel pressure regulator, a fuel pump, the recirculation valve, and other assorteds can run about $2500, thatll put you up to about 350hp using the stock sidemount IC which will start to heatsoak like the sun at that point. A catback system from any reputable company runs in the neighborhood of about $600-$900 depending on finish, material, and other options. If you dont like the fly by wire system that the engine uses the replacement throttle body, cables, and special ecu flasher is about $1200 Thats just the aftermarket.

If the battery ever dies you have the security code you have to imput with the stereo, if you get an aftermarket stereo, and your battery dies, you have to pull the stereo out and put the original in and then put the code in. ALSO if the battery dies, or even when you're changing the battery, theres a slight chance that your computer could clear itself and go into limp mode or security mode. The check engine light problem is due to confusing wiring diagrams and layouts from the factory, shorts on one part that isnt even shown on the wiring diagram can blow a fuse for a part you wouldnt even consider, IE a faulty ground in your sunroof switch can cause the driving lights on the left side of the car to go out completely and blow the 15 amp fuse on the circuit repeatedly. Parts are expensive but interchangeable within the audi / VW family so its very easy to upgrade with factory parts. Dont ever break your sun visor, due to the wiring inside for the vanity light and special switch they use, they cost $500, im not lying. This has nothing to do with the car we're talking about but if you get an audi S4, to replace the clutch it costs about $3000 no matter where you take it because EVERY shop manual lists at least 10 hours of labor including dropping the manifolds with the turbos, dropping the engine and tranny and replacing both the clutch and the flywheel at the same time... a ..... indeed.

Yeah, a MK IV jetta can be expensive to mod, and if you dont take care of it and take it to reputable mechanics with proper training can be expensive to repair but when done right you can get good power out of them. Its not a choice platform to mod by any means but if you like the body style and you have the skrilla you can play. You could probably pick up a 99.5 Jetta or Golf with a 1.8t for about $9,200 with decent mileage.

Amagine
01-18-2005, 11:25 PM
on that note I guess my journey continues... although.. to johnny b I've heard a few rants about hondas too ya know... though stuff like that can be heard from just bout any car.

Amagine
01-18-2005, 11:30 PM
also... thats with every AWD Car....the clutch is quiet nearly wedged inthere... the only difference that I've known is with the mitsu's though thats not that far from them either.. lets not get on the bimmer SMG trannys.. ridden in one that had one of those .....s... even a new one sounds like the trannys 100k old....cerclunk through each gear....sad they used it on the new 7 series....eghh. Ok any rants on scoobys (subaru)

Tapp's_G60
01-18-2005, 11:55 PM
Ever thought about getting a Corrado? Haha. They're good cars. The 4-banger edition, like mine, is supercharged from the factory and BBM makes some great upgrades for that G charger. They have a VR6 model they released in 92 and ran till 94 i think. It didn't last long, but they are definately unique looking. I'll be at Damon's saturday night. I'll warn you, my ....ing exhaust fell off, so now it's like i have a straight pipe coming out of the driver side. Gross. And randomly my passenger side door handle broke, so now i can't open it from the outside. Sucks when i have to deliver pizza pies. VW's aren't without their flaws, but i think it would be good to have more Bavarian vehicles around to break up the Japanese monotany. Come to Damon's saturday. I will probably make it there by 8 or 9.

jonyb
01-19-2005, 05:52 AM
That goes with Honda, but you can fix anything on a Honda in 5 minutes WITHOUT a scantool. Windows don't fall out because theyre poorly built in Mexico.

And a Corrado? Look at Jesse Duncan's Corrado. The transmission ....s up all the time, and to fix it, he turns the car off while doing 60 MPH on the street, then starts it back up and keeps going. That car needs to be burnt!! Not to mention all the other problems he's had

boosted01
01-19-2005, 09:10 AM
hondas are .... too then. cable trannys breaking linkages, windows sticking up, sunroofs not popping up, rear defrosters coming from the factory in crap shape, every model from the late 80's early 90's is prone to rust in the rear quarters, the radiator supports can rust through because on some models they didnt get enough welding, motor mounts are weak for even the stock weak ... 92 hp out of some cars, the dash lights burn out faster than ashlee simpsons career, and the gas prop shocks on eg hatches go out easy too. Hondas are ....!
Not really, but thats the same thing you're doing to VW, a few people with problems here and there isn't a ....ing travesty and doesn't taint the entire brand. Sure honda sells more cars, but VW still sells cars because they make them well. When was the last time a honda sedan got a five star safety rating? Has honda had an engine on JD Powers Top 10 engines for 8 years in a row? Whatever, I guess it's just your job to bash VW.

jonyb
01-19-2005, 09:37 AM
Sorry bro. Just telling from experience. I'm not talking about 80-90 VW's. I'm talking 2000 models. That's the experience I've had with Volkswagon. And I'm not trying to say that Honda's are better, because all cars have their faults. And the only two VW's that have been in my family let me down. Several times.

Tapp's_G60
01-19-2005, 01:59 PM
They made a 2000 model 'rado? didn't know that..

jonyb
01-19-2005, 02:33 PM
no the Corrado is older. You know that.

Amagine
01-19-2005, 04:04 PM
has anybody tricked and slammed a vw truck b4? Just kiddin. My uncle did it to mazdas back in the day but never seen a trick vw truck LOL.

Amagine
01-19-2005, 04:08 PM
and also to my experience jettas have been good to the peeps that I know that have them. Thats why I was interested in findin one. The only thing I agree with though is that the custom stuff for jetta's are unreal. With the exception of Andy's stuff and WW stuff it's all unreal in price. might as well custom make every ....ed thing for that price....hell ya theres a business idea... anybody know how to program an ecu? We'd be in business undercutting all the major players LOL.

jonyb
01-19-2005, 04:36 PM
Don't get me wrong. I love the Mid-90's Golf's when they are hooked up. It's just the new ones I can't get down with. I'd love to have an old VW bus that was restored. And Kinser's got like 8 old Beetles :eek:

Amagine
01-19-2005, 04:41 PM
i'd be in heaven if I could get hooked up with an r32.. .... those things are tight. also saw on cardomain where a guy took a tdi (diesel) and gave it all rally parts (spent bout 8 grand.. maybe more) and made that lil no sparkin 4 banger crank out nearly 600 lb-ft of torque! :eek:

boosted01
01-19-2005, 07:11 PM
r32's are way overrated. if you look at autotrader you see alot of them for sale. they're way over priced, way super heavy, and parts arre way too expensive.

Amagine
01-19-2005, 08:30 PM
I figured that much... with a v6 and awd.... thats a lotta drivetrain there.... but 300 hp to all four wheels... thats still gotta be a hauler though