Aftermarket head unit in a mustang?

[csledd]

Anyone ever install an aftermarket head unit in a mustang with the mach 460? I'm not talking about the earlier Mach 460 that had 2 different headunits.. this is the one with the 6 disc cd changer. Any help is appreaciated.

[csledd]

btw this is what I got..

http://iweb.alpine-usa.com/img/asb/cda-9855.gif
Alpine CDA-9855

the problem is I have 2 stock amps and I'm not replacing the stock speakers. the guys at work are installing it and they seem to think the factory stuff is wired weird. /shrug

[Amagine]

well no experience with stangs but with t-birds...its just plain crazy...PIA to put in...it shouldn't be that bad for yours... geesh just get the DIN holder and the adapter wires to match the car they are all color coded so it should be a breeze even for the most incompentant electrical person... every car is wired weird if you know not what your doing...

[WhiteCoupe]

I think with the newer setups you have to either bypass the amps or remove them completely. This is one of the setups I havn't had a chance to really mess with yet. But seriously... take it down to Sound Gallery, or Dr. Dashboard. They really know their stuff. I know a couple of the guys in the RoadShop at BB, and one of them is very inept and dense.

I know you proably get a discount or what not for BB doing it, but take it to a professional that knows what they are doing with these setups. Last thing you need is the wiring in that new of a car hacked up.

Just my $0.02.

[csledd]

I dunno who you know in the install bay, but there's only two people I'm trusting with this. I wasn't worried about this because the told me it wouldn't be that big of a deal. I knew from the beginning the factory amps were giong to have to be bypassed, they just are having problems doing it.

[slow904door]

I think with the newer setups you have to either bypass the amps or remove them completely. This is one of the setups I havn't had a chance to really mess with yet. But seriously... take it down to Sound Gallery, or Dr. Dashboard. They really know their stuff. I know a couple of the guys in the RoadShop at BB, and one of them is very inept and dense.

I know you proably get a discount or what not for BB doing it, but take it to a professional that knows what they are doing with these setups. Last thing you need is the wiring in that new of a car hacked up.

Just my $0.02.



sound gallery is out of biznas and has been for like 10 years i cant belive you did not know this knower of all thing what a jackass

[jonyb]

Sorry Christy, but after fixing several cars from Best Buy, I wouldn't trust any of them.

Nice choice on the head-unit

Here's what you need:

SVEN4 = $60
SVHFD3 = $20
Plus shipping for all

http://peripheralelectronics.com/web/loc.asp

I'm a Stinger/Peripheral/Best Kits dealer. I can get the dash kit for you also. In the link, the SVHFD3 is not listed, but I have it in my book. It's 2001-03 Ford Mach Sound System radio replacement smart harness for SVEN4, so you have to have both parts. That's actually pretty cheap, because I spent almost $200 on install parts for my 04 Silverado (Bose/Onstar adaptor, steering wheel remote interface, chime module), then another $100 in interface parts for the remote start.

If you want this stuff, let me know

[csledd]

well.. let me tell you what happened.. a guy looked at it last night and took out the headunit and the back speakers and the 2 amps there are back there (this is all factory). He dosen't think there's a way to do it and that I need to change out my speakers and speaker wire. Another guy looked at it today and said all i need is a wiring harness, which I had to get from Precision Audio.. it is a Metra 70-5519. So he installed the back speakers and amps back up and put in my new head unit using the harness. Well it sounds like .... and the bottom speakers in my door doesn't work. There's also no bass. I had told the guy I'll be ordering a new mounting bracket because I don't like the way the one they had looked. So he todl me when I get that he'll put it in and trace the wires to see why the speakers aren't working.

What do you think jb? I don't mind spending the money to get it working, but now I'm debating if I have to spend another $80 to get the factory speakers working should I look into just replacing the speakers instead? or would I still need a lot of that stuff? Let me know. And how much would you charge me to install it? (if you would) Just let me know

[Amagine]

well first of all from the head unit back shouldn't be a problem...really.. it's all a harness problem. My bet is that theres a ground disconnected or not connected.
thats just my 2 lincolns

[csledd]

it sucks.. the one thing that me and my dad don't want to mess with installing is such a big fkn problem

[jonyb]

You're installer's don't know .... about OEM integration. There's a whole world of it, but they don't have a clue.

No bass, and no fronts, because the factory amps were'nt powered up. Could be a missing ground, or it could be that the amp remote wire was not hooked up. After trying that, and it does'nt work, then you can order the right harnesses from me, and I'll install it for you.

[csledd]

alright, I'll have them look at it again tomorrow and we'll see what happens. Thank you sir, I'll keep you updated

[Amagine]

I'll even throw in my help...my bro might wanna jump in as well.. he's prolly got the better skill at this.
but yea I'm more apt to think ground is the problem
I'm one of these days going to get that adapter for my steering wheel functions.. but I don't really at the right feel like it...

[csledd]

that's ok.. I don't want everyone and their brother working on my car :P

i've had 2 people too many already

[WhiteCoupe]

I thought sound gallery just "moved" to where Risleys used to be. Or is it Presicion Audio now? I'm not a car stereo audiophile, so I don't keep up with the names of all the stores.

Jony is right. I know hes been in the audio world as well as performance since I've pretty much known/met the guy. The thing is, why would you trust someone to install something like this at a store, where they're pretty much hired without any professional training. At least the guys that work for major audio intallers have usually been working around the audio field for many years.

[jonyb]

In August 2001, the owner/founder of Sound Gallery decided to sell out. That's one month before I was to start my new job where I work now. Less than one year had passed, and the new owner had already turned it upside down in debt, had no clue what he was doing, and couldn't manage money to save his life. He closed the store in less than one year of ownership. In the meantime, Ronnie Veach had already taken over the old Long Run Audio building. He later moved to the old Risley's building and most of the old Sound Gallery employees went there. Jay and Brian are now at Circuit City, Scott is in Nashville with T-Mobile, and Kinser works in Metro.

[csledd]

The thing is, why would you trust someone to install something like this at a store, where they're pretty much hired without any professional training. At least the guys that work for major audio intallers have usually been working around the audio field for many years.

Because I never thought installing a head unit would be so complicated? :o



on another note, everything works once again. A fuse blew, simple as that.

[jonyb]

A fuse blew, simple as that.

What caused that?

[csledd]

It was the subwoofer fuse.. they told me that they've found out that sometimes when you unplug them it blows the fuse /shrug

[jonyb]

:rolleyes:

[WhiteCoupe]

Because I never thought installing a head unit would be so complicated? :o



on another note, everything works once again. A fuse blew, simple as that.
True...

[b18apwr]

Jonyb is right. Every Mach system I'd do an install on, I'd use a factory amp interface adapter. It allows the Mach 460 system to work just like factory. You can't just run new wires to the speakers. If I remember correctly, the door tweeters were 1 ohm. If you wire that directly to a head unit, you run the risk of burning up the internal amp. If you just use a Ford adapter (which it sounds like is the case), you are putting a MUCH higher output signal into the factory amps (which is what the parts Jonyb listed are for - they reduce that output to the same level as the factory head unit). This much higher input signal can damage your factory amps. And finally, as far as blowing the "fuse" on the 460 system, I too will use the :rolleyes: icon. In the years I was in 12 volt and all the Mach 460 systems I have done installs on, that has NEVER happened. Then again, I never interfaced a 460 system with just an adapter harness on the back of an aftermarket radio.

[csledd]

I used a part listed as an "amp integrator plug". All I know is that was listed to use on mustangs of my year with the Mach 460. If the factory amps burn up and die then oh well I guess. I only changed out the deck because the crappy ... Mach460 6 disc head unit finally jammed up for good and it had already been replaced by Ford once (which they broke the harness for it while installing it).

btw.. it seems maybe my antenna is unplugged because I can't get any radio stations :o

[Bman]

What you need to do is go to Audio Specialist in Hopkinsville.They know what their doing and sell alot of bad a$$ systems. Thats where I got mine installed. :cool: