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Amagine
05-01-2006, 12:17 AM
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Ok for all those in the Know... this has been a project thats been under the werks for a bit.
Its an LS1 fitted into a GTP, mated to a fully built Dynotech 4t65e.

Don't get any Idea's torque:p

csledd
05-01-2006, 12:19 AM
man eric.. think of all the groceries!!!

lol j/p.. that's crazy.

Torquenstein
05-01-2006, 12:19 AM
Don't get any Idea's torque:p

I don't think you have to worry about me getting any ideas. I don't even get paid enough to think.

man eric.. think of all the groceries!!!

lol j/p.. that's crazy.

Haha, ironically enough, I did just get done cutting out a bunch of coupons.:D

Torquenstein
05-01-2006, 12:28 AM
I will say this though. Although I don't like the LS1 being swapped in to a GTP just for the simple fact that they could've gotten just as much power out the stock L67 for a fraction less than the cost of the swap...

The swap itself just goes to prove how small of an engine the LS1 actually is. That's the beauty of pushrod engines though my friends. Compare an LS1 to the shear size and weight of a DOHC 4.6 modular V8 from Ford, and prepared to be amazed and the difference cam configurations can make between 5.7 liters and 4.6. Weighing only 50 lbs. more than a L67, they're aren't going to notice any handling loss from the added weight. If anything, the car might launch better just for having the added weight in the correct place "see rant about Carbon Fiber hoods on FWD cars".

Good find Amagine. Looks like it puts down the power the LS1 is so famed for having.

junkman
05-01-2006, 12:31 AM
The government should mandate every vehicle come with an ls1 standard equipment.... or ls2, ls6, ls7 ect.

Torquenstein
05-01-2006, 12:33 AM
The government should mandate every vehicle come with an ls1 standard equipment.... or ls2, ls6, ls7 ect.

+1:cool:

Amagine
05-01-2006, 12:36 AM
I will say this though. Although I don't like the LS1 being swapped in to a GTP just for the simple fact that they could've gotten just as much power out the stock L67 for a fraction less...

The swap itself just goes to prove how small of an engine the LS1 actually is. That's the beauty of pushrod engines though my friends. Compare an LS1 to the shear size and weight of a DOHC 4.6 modular V8 from Ford, and prepared to be amazed and the difference cam configurations can make between 5.7 liters and 4.6. Weighing only 50 lbs. more than a L67, they're aren't going to notice any handling loss from the added weight. If anything, the car might launch better just for having the added weight in the correct place "see rant about Carbon Fiber hoods on FWD cars".

Good find Amagine.

Yea true the 4.6 is monsterous. but I have seen DOHC V8's which actually take up no more room than an LS1 (ie anything from toyota). Judging from the size of the GP engine bay I wonder if this project saved the AC... never said

SeeAreX
05-01-2006, 01:07 AM
The government should mandate every vehicle come with an ls1 standard equipment.... or ls2, ls6, ls7 ect.

wow...that would be insane and i'd smoke all your asses!

Amagine
05-01-2006, 01:18 AM
wow...that would be insane and i'd smoke all your asses!
what while we're in 6 gear and your in 1st? LOL:D

SeeAreX
05-01-2006, 01:26 AM
no, i'd be in 6th but i would have spun all the way there! yeah, i prolly be so slow because it would be impossible to hook up or not break something:rolleyes:

Amagine
05-01-2006, 01:32 AM
I thought you were saying that you'd still beat us... lol

nah I can hook up just fine in a friend of mines camaro. Now dealing with a 6spd with the gears bout a fingernails width apart. Thats another thing all together
Manuals>me

shawn.hayden
05-01-2006, 02:18 AM
+1 for the most unique swap I think I've ever seen

turbo86
05-01-2006, 08:34 AM
The government should mandate every vehicle come with an ls1 standard equipment.... or ls2, ls6, ls7 ect.

Don't forget the LC2!;)

As far as the GTP+LS1 goes, can anybody say "Torque Steer",,, and no, I am not calling Eric a cow.:rolleyes:

94GTMustangGT
05-01-2006, 08:38 AM
The government should mandate every vehicle come with an ls1 standard equipment.... or ls2, ls6, ls7 ect.

that is one of the best ideas ive heard in a long time :cool:

Torquenstein
05-01-2006, 08:49 AM
Don't forget the LC2!;)

There isn't enough gas in the world for all of those engines!

and no, I am not calling Eric a cow.:rolleyes:

Oh, I see how it is Jason!:mad: :p

http://forum.atlasrr.com/forum/data/Silicon%20Revolution/200511922629_Haterade.gif

turbo86
05-01-2006, 09:38 AM
There isn't enough gas in the world for all of those engines!



We could just convert them to Alky or better yet, pure Nitrous.:D


Sorry bro, I was actually trying to keep such insults from happening, but it seems the Haterade was released anyway. Pass me a cold one....:cool:

Torquenstein
05-01-2006, 10:01 AM
Hahaha, Haterade...the drink of Champions!:thumb:

whoflungpoo
05-01-2006, 10:03 AM
I will say this though. Although I don't like the LS1 being swapped in to a GTP just for the simple fact that they could've gotten just as much power out the stock L67 for a fraction less than the cost of the swap...

The swap itself just goes to prove how small of an engine the LS1 actually is. That's the beauty of pushrod engines though my friends. Compare an LS1 to the shear size and weight of a DOHC 4.6 modular V8 from Ford, and prepared to be amazed and the difference cam configurations can make between 5.7 liters and 4.6. Weighing only 50 lbs. more than a L67, they're aren't going to notice any handling loss from the added weight. If anything, the car might launch better just for having the added weight in the correct place "see rant about Carbon Fiber hoods on FWD cars".

Good find Amagine. Looks like it puts down the power the LS1 is so famed for having.


heh, you know what's funny, is that the LS1 and T56 weighs ~ 120 lbs less than the KA24DE and auto tranny from a 240sx:D

Torquenstein
05-01-2006, 10:06 AM
heh, you know what's funny, is that the LS1 and T56 weighs ~ 120 lbs less than the KA24DE and auto tranny from a 240sx:D

Haha, I keep tellin everyone...just cause its a V8, doesn't mean its heavy.:)

turbo86
05-01-2006, 10:27 AM
Haha, I keep tellin everyone...just cause its a V8, doesn't mean its heavy.:)

True, True......

I have had 2 LS1s, and I must say, it is the most durable and moddable V8 engine out there, IMO.....

Amagine
05-01-2006, 12:23 PM
slap an LS2 intake on it and viola you've gone from 325 to 400hp LOL
Pretty insane ease you can tap power out of these engines. Bad side is every mod, besides the ones you create your self will leave a nice hole in your pocket

how ever word has it the LT1's in the old f-bodies were actually making quite a bit more power than they were quoted as. Corvette Group didn't like the Idea that their "flagship" car at the time was getting trumped by a much more optioned, cost effective. lower caste car. LOL

burd
05-01-2006, 05:37 PM
GM LOVE ROCKIN!!! bout time

whoflungpoo
05-01-2006, 07:24 PM
slap an LS2 intake on it and viola you've gone from 325 to 400hp LOL
Pretty insane ease you can tap power out of these engines. Bad side is every mod, besides the ones you create your self will leave a nice hole in your pocket

how ever word has it the LT1's in the old f-bodies were actually making quite a bit more power than they were quoted as. Corvette Group didn't like the Idea that their "flagship" car at the time was getting trumped by a much more optioned, cost effective. lower caste car. LOL


uhh, you're telling me an manifold will give you 70 HP? i've seen some debate as to whether swapping to an LS2 manifold will give any gains at all.


and there are 2 things that are keeping me from going LT1: cast block, and optispark.

Amagine
05-01-2006, 08:19 PM
uhh, you're telling me an manifold will give you 70 HP? i've seen some debate as to whether swapping to an LS2 manifold will give any gains at all.


and there are 2 things that are keeping me from going LT1: cast block, and optispark.
well I'm sure that is in addition to cam and/or tune. I'm not the world's expert with LSx motors. But if you want to be in generalities it could be possible. FAST's LS1 intake/mani combo yeilds like a 10-15% gain and its basically the same thing as an LS2 intake. So do Long-tubes on an LSx motor. Getting a 350 hp motor to 400 is not THAT hard on LSx architecture.

and I beleive a Cast block out ran a well known cobra a wee while ago:rolleyes:

whoflungpoo
05-01-2006, 08:39 PM
well I'm sure that is in addition to cam and/or tune. I'm not the world's expert with LSx motors. But if you want to be in generalities it could be possible. FAST's LS1 intake/mani combo yeilds like a 10-15% gain and its basically the same thing as an LS2 intake. So do Long-tubes on an LSx motor. Getting a 350 hp motor to 400 is not THAT hard on LSx architecture.


mean what you say, and say what you mean.

You stated, and I quote:
slap an LS2 intake on it and viola you've gone from 325 to 400hp
which is gross misinformation, or as I like to call it: bull..... You didn't mention a full bolton build, so how were any of us to assume that's what you meant?


and I beleive a Cast block out ran a well known cobra a wee while ago:rolleyes:
congrats. I konw of quite a few motors with cast blocks that are donkey pumping cobras, a 4G63 comes to mind.

Cast is great for having a stout bottom end for rediculous HP, but if I were doing an LS1 swap, 400 NA would be plenty for me, plus the occasional nitrous shot. plus, i'd rather have the lighter motor to retain maneuverability.

Amagine
05-01-2006, 09:04 PM
mean what you say, and say what you mean.

You stated, and I quote:

which is gross misinformation, or as I like to call it: bull..... You didn't mention a full bolton build, so how were any of us to assume that's what you meant?



congrats. I konw of quite a few motors with cast blocks that are donkey pumping cobras, a 4G63 comes to mind.

Cast is great for having a stout bottom end for rediculous HP, but if I were doing an LS1 swap, 400 NA would be plenty for me, plus the occasional nitrous shot. plus, i'd rather have the lighter motor to retain maneuverability.

wouldn't we all

Bman
05-01-2006, 09:33 PM
Yea true the 4.6 is monsterous. but I have seen DOHC V8's which actually take up no more room than an LS1 (ie anything from toyota). Judging from the size of the GP engine bay I wonder if this project saved the AC... never said
If you think the 4.6 DOHC is big, you should see a 5.4 DOHC. Even bigger.:D

csledd
05-01-2006, 09:39 PM
lol yup.. its very common to find mustang drivers who complain about how beastly LS1's are.. most of them cry because they can mod the crap out of their 4.6 and a LS1 will come along and add some headers and intake and still have more HP.

Amagine
05-01-2006, 10:08 PM
lol yup.. its very common to find mustang drivers who complain about how beastly LS1's are.. most of them cry because they can mod the crap out of their 4.6 and a LS1 will come along and add some headers and intake and still have more HP.
like you for example:cool:

csledd
05-01-2006, 10:30 PM
yup I have modded the crap out of my 4.6, but I still like it better than an LS1. I dont cry about the LS1's being faster mod for mod.. its a freaking 5.7l engine.. of course its going to be faster.

Torquenstein
05-01-2006, 10:36 PM
like you for example:cool:

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

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Amagine
05-02-2006, 01:26 AM
First start movie!
http://www.fastfieros.com/projects/tomkls1/first_start.MOV

shawn.hayden
05-02-2006, 01:28 AM
sounds reliable.

Amagine
05-02-2006, 01:32 AM
http://www.fastfieros.com/projects/tomkls1/tomkls1.htm
and the build up
on paper this ..... is a 383 making 500FHP

shawn.hayden
05-02-2006, 01:35 AM
Mille Miglia's... wow

Torquenstein
05-02-2006, 01:39 AM
sounds reliable.

LOL, I think Lloyd should just stick to throwing 3800SC engines in Fieros.:thumb:

http://www.fastfieros.com/projects/matt_3800/audio_3800sc.avi

Or not so stock!

http://www.fierox.com/speed.mov

Amagine
05-02-2006, 01:42 AM
.... .... that thing whines worse that a certain snake round here

burd
05-03-2006, 04:28 PM
no swap beats that blown big block in a crx. owned.

Amagine
05-03-2006, 10:56 PM
how bout this one?
blown big big in a cavy